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Mate most of stop reading at "big time", about there we almost passed out from laughter...

As for the crickets im sure there are enough of those louder at certain franchise games than the crowds, despite the double head counts or you not caring to admit it...
Unfortunately, it’s the only fully professional league we have, so for Australia it very much is the “big time”. And I understand and sympathize that your “A-League angst” comes from being unfairly excluded from the “big time”. But you’d still jump at the chance to get in……….
 
Unfortunately, it’s the only fully professional league we have, so for Australia it very much is the “big time”. And I understand and sympathize that your “A-League angst” comes from being unfairly excluded from the “big time”. But you’d still jump at the chance to get in……….
Thats where you continue to be wrong mate..... I actually wouldnt want to be a part of it, not in its current state, only if your "big time" pro league was torn down and rebuilt with pro/rel like we've previously stated (that time has long passed where that was a desire withheld from us without merrit) - if you have proof of me saying otherwise I suggest you quote me!! I assure you there is no backflips here!

We wont agree overall on many fronts and thats ok, but will however agree with you on the "unfortunate part" ... its unfortunate that the same failures occured for the so called mainstream pro league as the NSL but on a grander scale, its unfortunate that you wont admit the failures or push for change, its more unfortunate that you continue despite the proof to see the NSL and old football as the key problem of the game even now!

Im also confident that logicqlly we would also agree that change is a necessity to move forward or die.. what that may mean may differ on many fronts and co exist on others.

For me there are 2 avenues either kill it again (by merging it into a superleague with all after a couple of seasons of NST to prepare all for the rehash) or just open it up and take advantage of old rivalries aswell as new from now. Sell the rebirth as "uniting football and all inclusive" ... and let the cream rise to the top!
Then there will be no more excuses for anyone!
 
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Appreciate your honesty. If you look at Flying Bat, Hellenic, or Mono’s posts however……….
Flying Bat? He's not South... I can agree with Hellenic's stance some what, would much rather be promoted to the top flight then buying our way in and maybe a league that's more football than business but I think the latter is a little to hard to ask for haha.
 
Thats where you continue to be wrong mate..... I actually wouldnt want to be a part of it, not in its current state, only if your "big time" pro league was torn down and rebuilt with pro/rel like we've previously stated (that time has long passed where that was a desire withheld from us without merrit) - if you have proof of me saying otherwise I suggest you quote me!! I assure you there is no backflips here!

We wont agree overall on many fronts and thats ok, but will however agree with you on the "unfortunate part" ... its unfortunate that the same failures occured for the so called mainstream pro league as the NSL but on a grander scale, its unfortunate that you wont admit the failures or push for change, its more unfortunate that you continue despite the proof to see the NSL and old football as the key problem of the game even now!

Im also confident that logicqlly we would also agree that change is a necessity to move forward or die.. what that may mean may differ on many fronts and co exist on others.

For me there are 2 avenues either kill it again (by merging it into a superleague with all after a couple of seasons of NST to prepare all for the rehash) or just open it up and take advantage of old rivalries aswell as new from now. Sell the rebirth as "uniting football and all inclusive" ... and let the cream rise to the top!
Then there will be no more excuses for anyone!
Lies, if you were a proper supporter, as you say you are, then you would support your team if they were in next seasons A league, regardless of the state of the league.
 
Lies, if you were a proper supporter, as you say you are, then you would support your team if they were in next seasons A league, regardless of the state of the league.
I think you may be misreading some of what he said Bear.

He is saying he does not want to be a part of the AL in its current form - but nowhere is he saying he would stop supporting them if they got in somehow.

It is a similar line to Mono's. They do not agree with the AL and what it represents - but I have no doubt they will follow their club whatever league/format they end up in.
 
Lies, if you were a proper supporter, as you say you are, then you would support your team if they were in next seasons A league, regardless of the state of the league.
Lies?? Not a true supporter? Like then, when i wasnt the right fit for the new dawn etc etc....very inclusive of you yet again!! Then you wonder why the hate? But hey, its the flying bat thats the issue apparently!?!

Consider this a free lesson though... bc you are parading as proof of the downfall of the educational system in this country!! As a true blue "mainstreamer" i assume English isnt YOUR second language not to be able to read or comprehend that which you are supposedly reading!! ..so where exactly did i say I wouldnt support my team in anything?? I said i wouldnt want my team to be part of the existing system bc its failed .. if that for you is the same as im lying then i suggest you spend less time at your franchise and more time hitting the books, perhaps start with dr#seuss to ease into the art..

To make it easier yet again and in laymans terms, for the "intelectually inept" : What i said clearly and concisely was that i dont want my team as part of your league without changes that will.propel the game to where it truly should be with all included!
 
Lies?? Not a true supporter? Like then, when i wasnt the right fit for the new dawn etc etc....very inclusive of you yet again!! Then you wonder why the hate? But hey, its the flying bat thats the issue apparently!?!

Consider this a free lesson though... bc you are parading as proof of the downfall of the educational system in this country!! As a true blue "mainstreamer" i assume English isnt YOUR second language not to be able to read or comprehend that which you are supposedly reading!! ..so where exactly did i say I wouldnt support my team in anything?? I said i wouldnt want my team to be part of the existing system bc its failed .. if that for you is the same as im lying then i suggest you spend less time at your franchise and more time hitting the books, perhaps start with dr#seuss to ease into the art..

To make it easier yet again and in laymans terms, for the "intelectually inept" : What i said clearly and concisely was that i dont want my team as part of your league without changes that will.propel the game to where it truly should be with all included!
I am not from this country. ( thankfully)
 
Ask for your money back either way champ... and use it to buy next years franchise membership!!
How do you get through life with so much hatred ? FWIW , I am on a rolling season ticket. Anyhoo I have a must win game to attend tomorrow night. You enjoy the minor league when it restarts.
 
There's definitely some healthy robust debate on this thread. Me? Well I like the idea of the A-League and generally like the way it's set up for the Australian sporting way of life.

But I'm a Middlesbrough fan through and through and they're always going to be my first love. But because I live now in Australia I'll support my local A-League team Sydney FC and when the season is over I'll go around the grounds and watch the odd match from NPL and state leagues.

I suppose I'm an easy target for the football authorities to entice along.

But I always wonder how many fans of the game are like me that dont go? Maybe came out from the UK or another football mad country, support a club from home and just want to carry on watching a reasonably decent level of football here?

I've never really seen an advertising campaign or the such like from the A-League targeting the likes of myself. Fans of overseas teams but try and spark some interest in the Australian domestic game.

Thoughts???
 
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There's definitely some healthy robust debate on this thread. Me? Well I like the idea of the A-League and generally like the way it's set up for the Australian sporting way of life.

But I'm a Middlesbrough fan through and through and they're always going to be my first love. But because I live now in Australia I'll support my local A-League team Sydney FC and when the season is over I'll go around the grounds and watch the odd match from NPL and state leagues.

I suppose I'm an easy target for the football authorities to entice along.

But I always wonder how many fans of the game are like me that dont go? Maybe came out from the UK or another football mad country, support a club from home and just want to carry on watching a reasonably decent level of football here?

I've never really seen an advertising campaign or the such like from the A-League targeting the likes of myself. Fans of overseas teams but try and spark some interest in the Australian domestic game.

Thoughts???
You think they would do an advertising cambering like that, lots of people from the British Iles in Melb / Syd. A few of them go to the games, but if you really wanted more of them to go advertise that your allowed to drink beer in your seat (can't do that in the epl). I also don't know why the a-league hasn't appealed to the disgruntled AFL live goer considering that (I'm assuming) you won't get kicked out of the game for shouting at the players / referees.
 
There's definitely some healthy robust debate on this thread. Me? Well I like the idea of the A-League and generally like the way it's set up for the Australian sporting way of life.

But I'm a Middlesbrough fan through and through and they're always going to be my first love. But because I live now in Australia I'll support my local A-League team Sydney FC and when the season is over I'll go around the grounds and watch the odd match from NPL and state leagues.

I suppose I'm an easy target for the football authorities to entice along.

But I always wonder how many fans of the game are like me that dont go? Maybe came out from the UK or another football mad country, support a club from home and just want to carry on watching a reasonably decent level of football here?

I've never really seen an advertising campaign or the such like from the A-League targeting the likes of myself. Fans of overseas teams but try and spark some interest in the Australian domestic game.

Thoughts???
Utb mate I support the boro as well
 
You think they would do an advertising cambering like that, lots of people from the British Iles in Melb / Syd. A few of them go to the games, but if you really wanted more of them to go advertise that your allowed to drink beer in your seat (can't do that in the epl). I also don't know why the a-league hasn't appealed to the disgruntled AFL live goer considering that (I'm assuming) you won't get kicked out of the game for shouting at the players / referees.
I've got a mate from Scotland who says exactly this just about every time he goes to a game.

"Och aye yee cannee 'ave a beer a' tynecastle while yee watchin' tha fitba"

Usually after about his 5th or 6th!!

But yes you're exactly right. There's a big selling point right there. Having a beer while you are watching the game in a stadium. That's right up there for me!
 
There's definitely some healthy robust debate on this thread. Me? Well I like the idea of the A-League and generally like the way it's set up for the Australian sporting way of life.

But I'm a Middlesbrough fan through and through and they're always going to be my first love. But because I live now in Australia I'll support my local A-League team Sydney FC and when the season is over I'll go around the grounds and watch the odd match from NPL and state leagues.

I suppose I'm an easy target for the football authorities to entice along.

But I always wonder how many fans of the game are like me that dont go? Maybe came out from the UK or another football mad country, support a club from home and just want to carry on watching a reasonably decent level of football here?

I've never really seen an advertising campaign or the such like from the A-League targeting the likes of myself. Fans of overseas teams but try and spark some interest in the Australian domestic game.

Thoughts???
i have met a few guys like you that have come from the UK and now support clubs here in Australia. One Scouser in Particular tried to support Sydney FC and the A-League but couldnt do it, he said it felt 'forced'. Now he happily supports Sydney United in the NPL home and away.
 
There's definitely some healthy robust debate on this thread. Me? Well I like the idea of the A-League and generally like the way it's set up for the Australian sporting way of life.

But I'm a Middlesbrough fan through and through and they're always going to be my first love. But because I live now in Australia I'll support my local A-League team Sydney FC and when the season is over I'll go around the grounds and watch the odd match from NPL and state leagues.

I suppose I'm an easy target for the football authorities to entice along.

But I always wonder how many fans of the game are like me that dont go? Maybe came out from the UK or another football mad country, support a club from home and just want to carry on watching a reasonably decent level of football here?

I've never really seen an advertising campaign or the such like from the A-League targeting the likes of myself. Fans of overseas teams but try and spark some interest in the Australian domestic game.

Thoughts???
That is the unfortunate thing, the lack of marketing.
I have many mates like you, who follow an O/S from various countries, whether they be Aussie, British, Indian, Croatian Greek or even kiwis, who enjoy the Game but tells me they didn't know the A-LEAGUE started.
The fans are there, they don't know how to market them
 
i have met a few guys like you that have come from the UK and now support clubs here in Australia. One Scouser in Particular tried to support Sydney FC and the A-League but couldnt do it, he said it felt 'forced'. Now he happily supports Sydney United in the NPL home and away.
And there's nothing wrong with following a club like Sydney United, Olympic or APIA.I'll go to the odd game in the NPL myself. These clubs are the heart and soul of the Australian game. And with that Scouse mate of yours just make sure you are constantly checking your pockets when he's around! 🤭

Only joking I love Scousers.
 
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