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A-league attendances 24/25

someguyjc said:
Made a bit of an interesting observation over the weekend. Curious if anyone else have had similar experiences.
A-League has been around for 20 years. When I started following MV, my mates and I were all in our early twenties. At the time, I'd say a massive chunk of the supporter base was in that same 20-30 age demographic. That demographic are all in their 40s now. Myself and nearly all of my mates have kids now. I have a baby and a toddler at home, so being able to attend every single home game (like I used to) is not really a reality anymore. Still a member, still watch on the TV if I can't make it, but no chance of going to every game. I can't remember the last time my group of mates were all able to attend a game at the same time. Somebody always can't make it.
So, the observation I made was that the people aged in their early twenties right now are not there in the same numbers to fill the gap left by us rusted-ons. Culturally they are quite a different generation. They have grown up in the social media era, which focuses on the individual, so they don't have that same sense of tribal club loyalty that was so present with previous generations. Combine that with tough cost-of-living pressures and it's not really a surprise that crowd numbers have levelled off. The dollar definitely doesn't really go that far these days. I was pretty broke in my early twenties, but I still went to MV games regularly (admitedly there were a lot of freebies back then), I went to any music festival or concert I wanted to see and still had money to go to bars and nightclubs at least every other week. There is no way young people can afford to do the same thing now.
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as if these aspects don't exist in other countries and yet we're not seeing plummeting crowds elsewhere
 
melbcityguy said:
I think this sums it up to me:

Went to the office what you donon the weekend.

Went to the a league last night

Ok.. who do you support? Where is it on at? Why?

But if you say you want to the footy or shopping or movies something people do it's more acceptable. Is what it is we had fun with 5k others yesterday
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Mate that has been the case for the past 100 years..... WHATS CHANGED? NOTHING!!!!!! thats the point...

Lowy kicked out the "effniks" for a new dawn..... and NOTHING CHANGED ..

You're all STILL "Sheilas, wogs and pooftas" you just don't accept it. hahahahaahahaha
 
I've been looking at the Heart/City crowds over the years:

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Explainer: These are their regular season home matches at Swan St only, excluding derbies.

I was surprised by the steady and solid growth year on year. But does anyone know what happened after round 5, 2017-18? Their season started well with crowds of 9,500, 9,000 and 11,000. Then it dropped off a cliff and never returned. The only thing I can see it coincides with is Tim Cahill's departure. Are we really that shallow?
 
More stats for Heart/City crowds (pre-COVID, excluding derbies):

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Also, two of their three highest crowds were their first two home matches under "City". Does that go against the theory of disenchanted Heart fans? In fact, City's first four seasons' crowds were ALL higher than Heart's first four seasons.

Their highest crowd (non-derby) was against Newcastle (the first "City" match). And their lowest crowd was during their first season, also against Newcastle.
 
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HappyGuus said:
More stats for Heart/City crowds (pre-COVID, excluding derbies):

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Also, two of their three highest crowds were their first two home matches under "City". Does that go against the theory of disenchanted Heart fans? In fact, City's first four seasons' crowds were ALL higher than Heart's first four seasons.

Their highest crowd (non-derby) was against Newcastle (the first "City" match). And their lowest crowd was during their first season, also against Newcastle.
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They had David Villa, Tim Cahill etc.. in those seasons which all positively impacted crowds (as well as red hot players like Fornaroli, Novillo , Mooy , who played very exciting attacking football for a-league standards.
 
HappyGuus said:
I've been looking at the Heart/City crowds over the years:

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Explainer: These are their regular season home matches at Swan St only, excluding derbies.

I was surprised by the steady and solid growth year on year. But does anyone know what happened after round 5, 2017-18? Their season started well with crowds of 9,500, 9,000 and 11,000. Then it dropped off a cliff and never returned. The only thing I can see it coincides with is Tim Cahill's departure. Are we really that shallow?
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I suspect all clubs got hit negatively by the governance war. Wonder why?

Covid, war on active support, gf decision and the governance war has meant 4 negative headwinds in a row. It could take a decade to rebuild assuming no further bad decisions
 
LFC said:
for the record robbos,
7 AL Club players at the time of 23 and some that didn't have much play time or at all.

2015 AFC Asian Cup squads - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Winning team - the starting 11 Milly came back to MV 2012 And Franjic just came back to MCity 2015.
Spira came back WSW for a couple of years around then and went back OS.
True those who even don't play or bitza's earnt a medal on the pines as they do.
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GK1Mathew Ryan
RB6Matthew Spiranovic
Yellow card
59'
CB20Trent Sainsbury
CB5Mark Milligan
LB3Jason Davidson
Yellow card
41'
DM15Mile Jedinak (c)
Yellow card
66'
RM2Ivan Franjić
Yellow card
6'
downward-facing red arrow
74'
CM21Massimo Luongo
LM7Mathew Leckie
CF4Tim Cahill
downward-facing red arrow
63'
CF10Robbie Kruse
Yellow card
68'
downward-facing red arrow
71'
Substitutes:
FW9Tomi Jurić
upward-facing green arrow
63'
MF14James Troisi
upward-facing green arrow
71'
MF17Matt McKay
upward-facing green arrow
74'
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For the record LFC I was replying to someone who said NSL produced Mark Viduka, so he wasn't playing NSL when he was at Leeds.
So I was saying these players played in the A-League once and moved on
Likewise the players in Qatar World cup that won as many games as GG did in 2 world cups did so mainly with players produced from A-League
 
The Flying Bat said:
Playing the man and not the ball....

A sure sign that you have nothing.

Hahaha...Great post. Generational change. Will have to add that one to the excuse list....
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Playing the man? I'm just quoting songs to you because most of your posts don't make sense to me, its not worth debating.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Mate that has been the case for the past 100 years..... WHATS CHANGED? NOTHING!!!!!! thats the point...

Lowy kicked out the "effniks" for a new dawn..... and NOTHING CHANGED ..

You're all STILL "Sheilas, wogs and pooftas" you just don't accept it. hahahahaahahaha
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Most sensible thing you have said.
Totally agree, there are football fans, whether they be NSL fans or A-League fans, the admin continue to stuff it up and has done so for the 50 years I have followed football in this country.
 
HappyGuus said:
I've been looking at the Heart/City crowds over the years:

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Explainer: These are their regular season home matches at Swan St only, excluding derbies.

I was surprised by the steady and solid growth year on year. But does anyone know what happened after round 5, 2017-18? Their season started well with crowds of 9,500, 9,000 and 11,000. Then it dropped off a cliff and never returned. The only thing I can see it coincides with is Tim Cahill's departure. Are we really that shallow?
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The a league was hot then now all the clubs are down. I think it's the recycling and losing the top players. If maclaren and Cummings will rather be in India why should anyone else care?
 
melbcityguy said:
The a league was hot then now all the clubs are down. I think it's the recycling and losing the top players. If maclaren and Cummings will rather be in India why should anyone else care?
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but thats football, players come and go - don't blame any of the hopefuls or top players getting out of here for there is nothing to play for with just 1 pro league.
Good supporters who care stick by their team no matter who's left - this is prob here and 2 divides break up the main supporter base's.
 
Robbos said:
For the record LFC I was replying to someone who said NSL produced Mark Viduka, so he wasn't playing NSL when he was at Leeds.
So I was saying these players played in the A-League once and moved on
Likewise the players in Qatar World cup that won as many games as GG did in 2 world cups did so mainly with players produced from A-League
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ah ok understood.
Seems we are doing just fine.
 
JohnKasich said:
What has me leaving the house got to do with anything?
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You don't appear to like any Australian football at all so your discussion of attendances is a moot point. Unless you can let us all know how much you support the local game at a NPL or lower level.
 
Robbos said:
Most sensible thing you have said.
Totally agree, there are football fans, whether they be NSL fans or A-League fans, the admin continue to stuff it up and has done so for the 50 years I have followed football in this country.
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I personally have never met an NSL fan or an Aleague fan... Everyone I associate with is a club fan... regardless of where their club plays.... You never answered my question on the other thread btw/ Have you ALWAYS been a Sydney City fan? They were a powerhouse during the NSL days and NEVER actively promoted themselves as exclusively Jewish, so assume you would have been?
 
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