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NoMates said:
Bigger crowds.
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Over 100 years of history in this country tells us , that ain’t going to happen.

As long as the AFL and NRL heirachies are still influencing the majority of the population and governments, football looks to have reached its level of attendances.

Even if the NST gets up and we have promotion and relegation, it won’t influence the crowds we currently attract.

Yes , we will still attract big attendances for big games, but that is it.( Hope I am wrong )
 
Sutherlandbear said:
Over 100 years of history in this country tells us , that ain’t going to happen.

As long as the AFL and NRL heirachies are still influencing the majority of the population and governments, football looks to have reached its level of attendances.

Even if the NST gets up and we have promotion and relegation, it won’t influence the crowds we currently attract.

Yes , we will still attract big attendances for big games, but that is it.( Hope I am wrong )
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Maybe it will maybe it wont...... My guess is that an NST will bring about a whole bunch of games with similar attendances to what the lower end of League is currently getting.. Surely for THAT alone its worth it?

12 games a round (1st and second division) with 10 games at around 3-4K and 2 games at 10K plus
is better than
6 games a round with 4 games at 3-4K and 2 games at 10K no?
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Outside of a handful of clubs, NOBODY owns their own infrastructure mate.
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In Australia mostly yes. A few other lower leagues too. But in a lot of leagues, clubs own their infrastructure. Even own their own marketing and merchandise production

Monoethnic Social Club said:
Perfect, so you would agree that provided a club is paying its staff and players the basic Australian wage (at a minimum - and not made up "scholarship and cadet wages") they are indeed "professional"?
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I'm not discussing the definition of professional. I was discussing its long term viability.
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Maybe it will maybe it wont...... My guess is that an NST will bring about a whole bunch of games with similar attendances to what the lower end of League is currently getting.. Surely for THAT alone its worth it?

12 games a round (1st and second division) with 10 games at around 3-4K and 2 games at 10K plus
is better than
6 games a round with 4 games at 3-4K and 2 games at 10K no?
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After 32 games only 3 have less than 4,000, with 5 games greater 20000. TBH though that shouldn't be the measure. If a second division team can survive with crowds of 3-4K then that is all that is needed. Anything on top is gravy. Equally, if ALM teams can't make money on current crowds then will they ever.

The beauty of NST is over time it will attract the best of the players not playing in the ALM. They will then be playing with and against each other and will raise the standard of those players. Whether those players go to ALM or OS clubs or continue to try to maintain other careers as well is up to them.
 
Can we get a team of surgeons in at the Apl and quickly please? They are all comatosed and they need to be revived before they ultimately die. It may be too late.
 
nm.apia21 said:
You have the choice of owners investing in teams to build 10k stadiums or praying that lobbying the government works eventually
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That will never happen in Australia. I think only one club actually own their ground in the NRL & AFL. Cronulla are that team.

The rugby league have been lobbying for years to build new grounds, with very little success.
 
And we currently use two of them, that people are saying are too big.

The Parramatta stadium was built for WSWFC & PRLFC, Since then they have failed to show up.
 
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zimbos05 said:
In Australia mostly yes. A few other lower leagues too. But in a lot of leagues, clubs own their infrastructure. Even own their own marketing and merchandise production


I'm not discussing the definition of professional. I was discussing its long term viability.
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Football viability is unquestioned... we will always play it in one form or another... insistence on corporate facilities and "match day you tube experience" and Instagram friendly moments is another conversation entirely.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
And we currently use two of them, that people are saying are too big.

The Parramatta stadium was built for WSWFC & PRLFC, Since then they have failed to show up.
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Exactly ..... I caught WU v Victory on the TV the other day.... brand new, perfectly sized stadium and it looked empty for the 5-10 mins I watched.... can;'t complain about facilities... especially NOT in the Aleague.
 
You to got at least bring in 14 teams in, the bye makes it awkward for teams that can’t play every week, for example Melb City hadn’t played in 3 weeks and looked very flat on the weekend that’s not normal to experience something like that.
 
NicCarBel said:
I've lost count even here.

Following the wiki page on this, it's the 5th bid, but still the same organisation as the third (but with different/non-existent financial backers)
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Its really the last available "market" left for expansion in the APL model of doing things.... unless they really do go overseas with expansion licenses to Indonesia and Pacific Islands like they threatened...
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
Its really the last available "market" left for expansion in the APL model of doing things.... unless they really do go overseas with expansion licenses to Indonesia and Pacific Islands like they threatened...
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Maybe Canberra is becoming wise and not uniting for a franchise, and looking to connect through NST....?
 
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