Summer of Cricket thread

[onedaywinners...]

Impressive - but I don't think he warrants Test squad selection after 4 Shield games to tour Sri Lanka.

How many has CC played this season?

How many red ball games beyond WA?

I think it is fair enough...to a point. There should be merit that comes with earning a Baggygreen no doubt.

Gone of the days where you can have a Siddons, Law, Cox, Love or Hussey who make mountains of runs and maybe never even get into the test team. Players these days are naturally playing less red ball cricket due to all the various short form leagues all over the world. So many Aussie bats went over and played year after year in County cricket and were able to amass thousands of runs.

Don't forget our current captain's test debut was his fourth ever FC match!

Ever so often talents come around where playing with the big boys doesn't faze them...they revel in it. I'm thinking Cummins on test debut, Konstas on Boxing day and Connolly in the BBL final in his fourth game (also 90 on debut in FC final).

Maybe sometimes merit is earned on sheer unbridled talent...who knows.

 

[Decentric]

I'm attending England v Aus Women's One Day game at Bellerive tomorrow. We have quite a group of Tas Cricket Members, who are mates, attending.

More of the women batters rely on placement in the field and play more traditional cricket shots in white ball cricket than the men, which features more slogging.

 

[Decentric]

I think it is fair enough...to a point. There should be merit that comes with earning a Baggygreen no doubt.

Gone of the days where you can have a Siddons, Law, Cox, Love or Hussey who make mountains of runs and maybe never even get into the test team. Players these days are naturally playing less red ball cricket due to all the various short form leagues all over the world. So many Aussie bats went over and played year after year in County cricket and were able to amass thousands of runs.

Don't forget our current captain's test debut was his fourth ever FC match!

Ever so often talents come around where playing with the big boys doesn't faze them...they revel in it. I'm thinking Cummins on test debut, Konstas on Boxing day and Connolly in the BBL final in his fourth game (also 90 on debut in FC final).

Maybe sometimes merit is earned on sheer unbridled talent...who knows.

Hunt and McSweeney have scored quite a lot of runs for South A in the Shield, as well as Webster for Tas. Not sure what profile they have in the BBL? Nobody seems to know them on Whirlpool Cricket Forum, other than Richie and a few other keen Shield followers.

Great talent - should be selected - but it is a fine line as to when they should be selected for Test cricket, or overseas Test squads.

 

[Decentric]

I barely know what is happening with shield cricket these days, media coverage seems very low profile.

About 50 - 70 of us in Tassie members are really concerned about the low profile of the Shield in the media. Every time we see the Tas Cricket CEO, a good bloke who we want to stay in the job, whenever we raise the media issue the scenario is always going to change with the new season, with a new media officer - but it never does.

Also, large numbers of fans who attend Hobart Hurricanes Big Bash games, 8- 15 000, have no interest in the Shield. Can't help but think appeasing 50 - 70 red ball tragics in Tas Cricket Members is insignificant to the BBL cash cow.

There is always some slick media guy we speak to as Cricket Tas media officer, with no passion for the game, just their media career, who promises to deliver to induce more media outlets covering Shield cricket, but nothing changes!

The same happens if we get 3 day red ball international tour games in Tas. Again there is little local media lead up coverage, ongoing media coverage during the game and little end of game coverage. Then because nobody knows the game is on, outside Tas Cricket Members, few fans turn out.

I think we have a crisis in red ball cricket ATM, but because most other countries are making the same mistakes, Aus is not being punished with on the field performances at Test level.

A mate of mine sent me an insightful cricket article after India beat us at home in Tests a few seasons ago. Pujara spent easily the most time at the crease. Aus bowlers struggled to get him out!

Greg Chappell said the Indians are now coaching players to play red ball cricket shots - through underage ranks right up until adults. That their first white ball cricket is played as adults. Conversely, in Australia, Chappell said more kids are being coached to hit the ball harder for white ball cricket requirements, with different foot placement to traditional red ball cricket shots.

Let us face it - we just beat India in a close fought contest - in conditions that favoured Aus more than India. Not sure if we would have won if Bumrah bowled in the last innings?

Also, the wickets took spin out of the equation for most of the Tests. Lyon, Jadeja and Ashwin, had little influence. Mohammad Shami is a quality fast bowler. Would Aus have beaten India if he was available?

In the series batting averages, Head scored a lot of runs for Aus early in the series, then Smith later. Until Webster played in Sydney, the rest of the Aus top 6 barely scored a run between them.


In countries where First Class red ball cricket stops in mid- summer, and FC red ball cricket is forced to be played in a few weeks on the shoulder season at the beginning and end, seems to be bizarre! There are some really good red ball Aus Shield cricketers, not contracted to play BBL, who return to grade cricket from mid -December to early February!

 

[Decentric]

CA covers every round, FREE. Unlike Kayo.

The Cricket Aus live footage videos for the Shield takes a bit to set up though, compared to having TV access FTA or Pay.

 

[Richie]

Bloody CA failed to live stream the full first CAX1 match so missed Tim Wards victory sealing century yesterday. DC that is his second ton on the trot.

 

[Richie]

TV access FTA or Pay.

Shield is not covered by tv, FTA? Only have to sign up for a free CA Cricket Family acct. I have had one for a decade. Then be able to watch Tassie away games on your PC.

 

[Decentric]

Bloody CA failed to live stream the full first CAX1 match so missed Tim Wards victory sealing century yesterday. DC that is his second ton on the trot.

Is there a red ball game on?

Who are CA Eleven playing, Richie?

 

[Decentric]

Shield is not covered by tv, FTA? Only have to sign up for a free CA Cricket Family acct. I have had one for a decade. Then be able to watch Tassie away games on your PC.

I know that, but others don’t.

Shame you can’t join us all today watching Aus v England One Day game at Bellerive, Baggers.

 

[Richie]

Is there a red ball game on?

Who are CA Eleven playing, Richie?

England Lions. One more match for CAX1 and then an unofficial Test against Aust A.

 

[Richie]

I know that, but others don’t.

Shame you can’t join us all today watching Aus v England One Day game at Bellerive, Baggers.

Thats life mate. If Aussie girls win they take a stranglehold on the Ashes with only the Test remaining.

 

[Richie]

About 50 - 70 of us in Tassie members are really concerned about the low profile of the Shield in the media. Every time we see the Tas Cricket CEO, a good bloke who we want to stay in the job, whenever we raise the media issue the scenario is always going to change with the new season, with a new media officer - but it never does.

Also, large numbers of fans who attend Hobart Hurricanes Big Bash games, 8- 15 000, have no interest in the Shield. Can't help but think appeasing 50 - 70 red ball tragics in Tas Cricket Members is insignificant to the BBL cash cow.

There is always some slick media guy we speak to as Cricket Tas media officer, with no passion for the game, just their media career, who promises to deliver to induce more media outlets covering Shield cricket, but nothing changes!

The same happens if we get 3 day red ball international tour games in Tas. Again there is little local media lead up coverage, ongoing media coverage during the game and little end of game coverage. Then because nobody knows the game is on, outside Tas Cricket Members, few fans turn out.

I think we have a crisis in red ball cricket ATM, but because most other countries are making the same mistakes, Aus is not being punished with on the field performances at Test level.

A mate of mine sent me an insightful cricket article after India beat us at home in Tests a few seasons ago. Pujara spent easily the most time at the crease. Aus bowlers struggled to get him out!

Greg Chappell said the Indians are now coaching players to play red ball cricket shots - through underage ranks right up until adults. That their first white ball cricket is played as adults. Conversely, in Australia, Chappell said more kids are being coached to hit the ball harder for white ball cricket requirements, with different foot placement to traditional red ball cricket shots.

Let us face it - we just beat India in a close fought contest - in conditions that favoured Aus more than India. Not sure if we would have won if Bumrah bowled in the last innings?

Also, the wickets took spin out of the equation for most of the Tests. Lyon, Jadeja and Ashwin, had little influence. Mohammad Shami is a quality fast bowler. Would Aus have beaten India if he was available?

In the series batting averages, Head scored a lot of runs for Aus early in the series, then Smith later. Until Webster played in Sydney, the rest of the Aus top 6 barely scored a run between them.


In countries where First Class red ball cricket stops in mid- summer, and FC red ball cricket is forced to be played in a few weeks on the shoulder season at the beginning and end, seems to be bizarre! There are some really good red ball Aus Shield cricketers, not contracted to play BBL, who return to grade cricket from mid -December to early February!

Good post mate.

 

[Decentric]

Good strokemsking from Gardner and Mooney.

Like to see the Poms put a slip in!

 

[Hounddog]

About 50 - 70 of us in Tassie members are really concerned about the low profile of the Shield in the media. Every time we see the Tas Cricket CEO, a good bloke who we want to stay in the job, whenever we raise the media issue the scenario is always going to change with the new season, with a new media officer - but it never does.

Also, large numbers of fans who attend Hobart Hurricanes Big Bash games, 8- 15 000, have no interest in the Shield. Can't help but think appeasing 50 - 70 red ball tragics in Tas Cricket Members is insignificant to the BBL cash cow.

There is always some slick media guy we speak to as Cricket Tas media officer, with no passion for the game, just their media career, who promises to deliver to induce more media outlets covering Shield cricket, but nothing changes!

The same happens if we get 3 day red ball international tour games in Tas. Again there is little local media lead up coverage, ongoing media coverage during the game and little end of game coverage. Then because nobody knows the game is on, outside Tas Cricket Members, few fans turn out.

I think we have a crisis in red ball cricket ATM, but because most other countries are making the same mistakes, Aus is not being punished with on the field performances at Test level.

A mate of mine sent me an insightful cricket article after India beat us at home in Tests a few seasons ago. Pujara spent easily the most time at the crease. Aus bowlers struggled to get him out!

Greg Chappell said the Indians are now coaching players to play red ball cricket shots - through underage ranks right up until adults. That their first white ball cricket is played as adults. Conversely, in Australia, Chappell said more kids are being coached to hit the ball harder for white ball cricket requirements, with different foot placement to traditional red ball cricket shots.

Let us face it - we just beat India in a close fought contest - in conditions that favoured Aus more than India. Not sure if we would have won if Bumrah bowled in the last innings?

Also, the wickets took spin out of the equation for most of the Tests. Lyon, Jadeja and Ashwin, had little influence. Mohammad Shami is a quality fast bowler. Would Aus have beaten India if he was available?

In the series batting averages, Head scored a lot of runs for Aus early in the series, then Smith later. Until Webster played in Sydney, the rest of the Aus top 6 barely scored a run between them.


In countries where First Class red ball cricket stops in mid- summer, and FC red ball cricket is forced to be played in a few weeks on the shoulder season at the beginning and end, seems to be bizarre! There are some really good red ball Aus Shield cricketers, not contracted to play BBL, who return to grade cricket from mid -December to early February!

IMO India also had issues with their batting,

Batsmen on both sides lacked patience and didn't dig in against good bowling.

I don’t mind T20 and ODIs, but Test cricket is the pinnacle and is a unique sport.

No other sport requires the application of skill, judgement and patience for hours on end.

It was always obvious that a decline in Shield cricket would trigger a decline in Test cricket.

I went to the last day of the Sydney Test with 2 mates who always go to most days of most Sydney Tests. Test cricket fans are the most committed.

The financial problem with all eggs in the T20 basket is it might go out of fashion. Perhaps T20 fans are equally dedicated?

 

[TheSelectFew]

Good luck to you following T20.

T20 has made cricket the second most popular sport in the world.

We as cricket snobs in the Members think of it as 'Australian baseball'!

Sadly, many T20 cricket followers don't even know the Shield players on the cusp of Test selection, because T20 is so dominant in the media. Many BBL players are nowhere good enough to play for their states fo rthe Shield in red ball cricket. Yet the public views them as superstars.

I'll be real with you I don't give a shit. I didn't ask for your opinion and you come across as a snob.

 

[Decentric]

Bloody CA failed to live stream the full first CAX1 match so missed Tim Wards victory sealing century yesterday. DC that is his second ton on the trot.

I've only just become aware of this game being on, Baggers.

Who did they play?

 

[Decentric]

I'll be real with you I don't give a shit. I didn't ask for your opinion and you come across as a snob.

Didn't mean to cause offence. Or to target you any way, The Select Few.

Sorry if you are offended.

If upholding red ball cricket as the pinnacle of cricket, yes, I, we, are snobs. At the same time I recognise how T20 has made cricket more popular globally. It has also improved fielding standards. I, we certainly enjoyed the second last World Cup held in Aus, watching games live.

This time didn't see so much of it, but the internationalism of the T20 WC tournament is good. I just wish they wouldn't play blaring music between balls in the BBL. One can't talk to the people next to you at the games to discuss what is occurring on the pitch.

 

[Decentric]

I went to the last day of the Sydney Test with 2 mates who always go to most days of most Sydney Tests. Test cricket fans are the most committed.

The financial problem with all eggs in the T20 basket is it might go out of fashion. Perhaps T20 fans are equally dedicated?

Luckily when I attended cricket live, we can watch from an elevated position, almost behind the bowler's arm.

I find it tough to track the ball watching side on. Watching it on TV the live atmosphere is can't be captured. The Sydney Test was good to watch! Lucky you being their live , HD.

 

[Decentric]

Watched a scintillating Women's International Ashes ODI yesterday at Bellerive's Ninja Stadium. Aus defeated England. Ther was an appreciative crowd of 2336.

Ash Gardner took one of the best catches I've ever seen - by either gender. It was heading for 6. She jumped high, close to the rope and palmed the ball back into the oval of play, then caught the ball diving on her second grab.

For England Lauren Filer with a few steps of walking in her run up, then a few steps of sprinting, generated a fair amount of pace, and skid off the pitch. Sophie Ecclestone caused a few problems with her left arm finger spin.

For Aus Mooney, Gardner and McGrath batted well!

Sutherland has a lovely smooth run up for her pace bowling. Gardener 's action for finger spin looks very good. Had a mate who played state cricket sitting next to me. He is a former wristy who was analysing Alana King's leg spin bowling, which impressed him immensely. She threw in a lot of top spinners.

Australia in particular fielded well. They bowled, batted and fielded better than England and deserved to win.

 

[NicCarBel]

About 50 - 70 of us in Tassie members are really concerned about the low profile of the Shield in the media. Every time we see the Tas Cricket CEO, a good bloke who we want to stay in the job, whenever we raise the media issue the scenario is always going to change with the new season, with a new media officer - but it never does.

Also, large numbers of fans who attend Hobart Hurricanes Big Bash games, 8- 15 000, have no interest in the Shield. Can't help but think appeasing 50 - 70 red ball tragics in Tas Cricket Members is insignificant to the BBL cash cow.

There is always some slick media guy we speak to as Cricket Tas media officer, with no passion for the game, just their media career, who promises to deliver to induce more media outlets covering Shield cricket, but nothing changes!

The same happens if we get 3 day red ball international tour games in Tas. Again there is little local media lead up coverage, ongoing media coverage during the game and little end of game coverage. Then because nobody knows the game is on, outside Tas Cricket Members, few fans turn out.

I think we have a crisis in red ball cricket ATM, but because most other countries are making the same mistakes, Aus is not being punished with on the field performances at Test level.

A mate of mine sent me an insightful cricket article after India beat us at home in Tests a few seasons ago. Pujara spent easily the most time at the crease. Aus bowlers struggled to get him out!

Greg Chappell said the Indians are now coaching players to play red ball cricket shots - through underage ranks right up until adults. That their first white ball cricket is played as adults. Conversely, in Australia, Chappell said more kids are being coached to hit the ball harder for white ball cricket requirements, with different foot placement to traditional red ball cricket shots.

Let us face it - we just beat India in a close fought contest - in conditions that favoured Aus more than India. Not sure if we would have won if Bumrah bowled in the last innings?

Also, the wickets took spin out of the equation for most of the Tests. Lyon, Jadeja and Ashwin, had little influence. Mohammad Shami is a quality fast bowler. Would Aus have beaten India if he was available?

In the series batting averages, Head scored a lot of runs for Aus early in the series, then Smith later. Until Webster played in Sydney, the rest of the Aus top 6 barely scored a run between them.


In countries where First Class red ball cricket stops in mid- summer, and FC red ball cricket is forced to be played in a few weeks on the shoulder season at the beginning and end, seems to be bizarre! There are some really good red ball Aus Shield cricketers, not contracted to play BBL, who return to grade cricket from mid -December to early February!

One big reason why I never liked CA's decision to change the old Big Bash format (which was I guess still technically linked to the Shield/State structure). I know the current structure allows for expansion, so I'm guessing that was the main reason why (being linked to cities, rather than states)