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Expansion Thread

BA81 said:
Never heard of this one at the time, nothing. All I(& I suspect most of us left over from those days) knew about was the PFA’s proposed model(which Lowy & O’Neill cherry-picked to form the conceptual basis of the ALM):

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Yeah I just read yesterday that these were the only two proposals, but I had only heard of the PFA's. And it was the PFA that shut down any NST ideas. Was that under Schwab? It seems Lowy was open to the NST.
 
HappyGuus said:
Yeah I just read yesterday that these were the only two proposals, but I had only heard of the PFA's. And it was the PFA that shut down any NST ideas. Was that under Schwab? It seems Lowy was open to the NST.
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why did the pfa shut down the nst?
 
melbcityguy said:
I don't know if I go another season with a bye round I hate it
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Yeah - it is a pain, and if this could be tied up quickly assuming that it is (and assuming it isn't another false start) then they should be asked to put in a ALM team straight away. They already have a ALW team - they have the backroom staff. Appoint the manager soon and let them get on with it.

The original 8 were chosen in November 2004 and played in the 2005 Australian Club World Championship Qualifying Tournament in May 2005. So 8 clubs - let alone 1 team can be put together quickly. A western Sydney team was announce on 4/4/2012 and played there first game on 6/10/2012 winning the premiership in their first season into an established competition before going on to win the AFC Champions League.
 
I'd go

1 Canberra
2 Gold Coast
3 Tasmania

I think that all 3 of these locations could realistically sustain an A-League club. 2 of them already have the perfect A-League specific stadium and somebody would have to educate me on Tasmania's rectangular stadium situation?
 
Joparo said:
I'd go

1 Canberra
2 Gold Coast
3 Tasmania

I think that all 3 of these locations could realistically sustain an A-League club. 2 of them already have the perfect A-League specific stadium and somebody would have to educate me on Tasmania's rectangular stadium situation?
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Scrap GC altogether. There may be people there but they are not into team sports. It would be interesting to know the number of people per age groups for all three locations.
 
WhatAmIWatching said:
Scrap GC altogether. There may be people there but they are not into team sports. It would be interesting to know the number of people per age groups for all three locations.
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Those with the money will decide where to invest. Having been there during Palmer's failed experiment, I think Gold Coast can work. Forget Tasmania. No private money and the state is broke.
 
Frankly Speaking said:
Those with the money will decide where to invest. Having been there during Palmer's failed experiment, I think Gold Coast can work. Forget Tasmania. No private money and the state is broke.
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Whenever I've spent time on the Gold Coast, which is a lot, it always feels very cosmopolitan and youthful. A region that is certainly cementing its status as a premier lifestyle destination both domestically and internationally.

A little light on arts and culture perhaps but you've got the tourism, retail and hospitality industries that are always booming. For graduates, industries like health, education and science, film and creative industries. And a popular study destination for regional and international students.

So you'd be thinking it's an ideal location for an A-League's club?

But 'WhatAmIWatching' is probably thinking of it's transitional nature of the Gold Coast's demographics. People constantly coming and going. Hard to build up a strong sustainable support base for a club perhaps??

Hopefully they'll get another one there eventually. My missus is from SE Qld and it's where we're eventually heading off too. So it'd be great for me! Brilliant mid sized stadium. I saw a Titans game there and even half full there was a good vibrant atmosphere.
 
Joparo said:
Whenever I've spent time on the Gold Coast, which is a lot, it always feels very cosmopolitan and youthful. A region that is certainly cementing its status as a premier lifestyle destination both domestically and internationally.

A little light on arts and culture perhaps but you've got the tourism, retail and hospitality industries that are always booming. For graduates, industries like health, education and science, film and creative industries. And a popular study destination for regional and international students.

So you'd be thinking it's an ideal location for an A-League's club?

But 'WhatAmIWatching' is probably thinking of it's transitional nature of the Gold Coast's demographics. People constantly coming and going. Hard to build up a strong sustainable support base for a club perhaps??

Hopefully they'll get another one there eventually. My missus is from SE Qld and it's where we're eventually heading off too. So it'd be great for me! Brilliant mid sized stadium. I saw a Titans game there and even half full there was a good vibrant atmosphere.
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I have also known plenty of people over the years that retired to the GC and people who live on the GC for golf & beaches but work in Brisbane. So, the demogrpahics are self selecting and different. Which is why I pointed out that only NRL has been successful (and only thsi decade) in establishing a presence there.
 
I cant say it enough, You want to test these new franchise teams viability, run them in the NST, set it up as home and away and in a few years with pro/rel let them achieve the goal of top tier the proper way, the real footballing way!

No more expansion not based on merrit will mean limited failures..
Alternatively i would rather set up the most established teams in these regions in the NST and give them the right to go up with their established bases, histories support etc.

All else is continuing to serve an already failing system!
 
Hellenic_blue&white said:
I cant say it enough, You want to test these new franchise teams viability, run them in the NST, set it up as home and away and in a few years with pro/rel let them achieve the goal of top tier the proper way, the real footballing way!

No more expansion not based on merrit will mean limited failures..
Alternatively i would rather set up the most established teams in these regions in the NST and give them the right to go up with their established bases, histories support etc.

All else is continuing to serve an already failing system!
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Makes absolute sense. But I expect it never to happen. Best we can hope for is a version of the MLS model.
 
Hellenic_blue&white said:
I cant say it enough, You want to test these new franchise teams viability, run them in the NST, set it up as home and away and in a few years with pro/rel let them achieve the goal of top tier the proper way, the real footballing way!

No more expansion not based on merrit will mean limited failures..
Alternatively i would rather set up the most established teams in these regions in the NST and give them the right to go up with their established bases, histories support etc.

All else is continuing to serve an already failing system!
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Best post on the entire thread.
 
Hellenic_blue&white said:
I cant say it enough, You want to test these new franchise teams viability, run them in the NST, set it up as home and away and in a few years with pro/rel let them achieve the goal of top tier the proper way, the real footballing way!

No more expansion not based on merrit will mean limited failures..
Alternatively i would rather set up the most established teams in these regions in the NST and give them the right to go up with their established bases, histories support etc.

All else is continuing to serve an already failing system!
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Agree but…..$$$$$$
 
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