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Green & Gold FC Podcast #3 – SMFC Mike & Pete

Decentric said:
Newcastle were called Breakers, I think?

What was Brisbane called?
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Newcastle United were formed around when breakers died (2000 ish). United then became Newcastle United Jets Football Club (yeah that's their full name).

1957 Hollandia-Inala > Brisbane Lions > Queensland Lions > Queensland Roar > Brisbane Roar
 
Decentric said:
Tony Labozetta was the head honcho of Soccer Australia. He presided over lots of petty fiefdoms. TL had no interest in growing the game and simply wanted to preserve his status as head of Aus football.

He was the antithesis of his predecessors, Ian Knox and David Hill, who desperately wanted to grow the sport - like Lowy did. Ostensibly, there was a lot of corruption associated with him. The NSL either was close to bankruptcy, or went bankrupt under TL's tenure. He could see nothing wrong with what he was doing.

Socceroos sometimes didn't want to leave their clubs to play for the Socceroos, because the UEFA clubs didn't like it. Players' club careers were paramount over playing for the national team under TL's tenure.

Aussie domestic based players didn't like the younger European pros in the team, who were quite comparatively rich. As soon as Lowy came in, he was a good financial manager. He also employed John O'Neill, then Aus rugby union CEO. They laid down the law to every UEFA club who refused to release Socceroos - they ensured they were suspended from playing for their UEFA clubs. Conversely, TL was inactive over this issue.

There were more scenarios like Robertson and Volpato, choosing other countries, or refusing to play for Aus.
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Was TL the guy who locked himself in the offices of Soccer Australia and refused to leave when they came to close it down?
 
Profound comment from Alex (I think, as Mike, Pete's and his voice are a bit similar) just before the Real M comments at 42 mins.

It is a neat, concise encapsulation of the Aus entire football milieu, or rather what it should be.
 
Decentric said:
What this podcast really rammed home to me, is pre-exisiting ethnic clubs having their semi-pro league, the highest level in Aus football, the NSL, taken away from them.

All local NPL clubs in this state weren't playing in the NSL. No long terms stakeholders in local ethnic clubs, Hobart Zebras, Hobart Olympic, Glenorchy Knights, felt the sense of loss that Melbourne Knights, Marconi, South Melb, Sydney United, Sydney Olympic experienced.

The only two NSL clubs who survived to play AL were Adelaide United and Perth Glory, am I correct ?

So that means other non-ethnic NSL clubs like Northern Spirit, Collingwood Warriors, Carlton, etc, also lost their licences.

I simply followed the AL as the highest level of football played in Aus.
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Newcastle Jets
 
HappyGuus said:
I don't want it to turn into a tit-for-tat shit slinging contest. I want to hear about everyone working together for progress, and ideas for the good of the game in Australia. Learn from the past and move forward. Old wounds have been done to death. Old prejudices have been done to death. Let's build this NST and ignore the haters. Not ignoring the concerns, just the haters.

That's just me though. I don't want any more dragging down. Lift each other up.
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well said Guus..... this is last chance saloon time .... if NST doesnt work then not really much left to aim for.
 
Decentric said:
One really good point I learned, raised by the panellists, is that with NSL clubs , there was no profit. Any money raised was sunk into improving coaching programs to develop youth.

In the AL the panellists suggested that the clubs raised money for shareholders instead - usually to make a profit.
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There still isnt. In the rules of incorporation and the constitution of most clubs they are non-for profit sporting clubs. All funds are used for football outcomes as Mike so eloquently put it NOT as a return on investment....
 
MoorePark said:
I agree, I can only talk about Sydney FC but Sydney FC was geninuely the only place where my father and myself would see people from our nationality other than the loitering around the three sisters in Redfern or Eastlakes.

It was like a weekend meeting point. My point is, don't be surprised if you find little enclaves of what the older clubs were in the some of the newer clubs. 20 years has passed now. It could be one of the reasons as to why we somehow in a market where local is more popular (NRL, AFL etc), we still can get 10k members each season based in the CBD.

I will pass this to my kids one day, the same way my father and father in-law did.
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good work... Thats all it is really about.....
 
Decentric said:
I'm having a lend of you.

Taking the piss!

You could wax lyrical on your new poster body status with the Anarchy forumites who visit G and G, and ones who haven't yet and hear a lot about you, in between their bans.
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hahahahahha maybe they can invite me on their podcast.......
 
Decentric said:
Mono, do you know Benjamin, a former scout; and Arthur, who was a NPL Club Pres; who both posted on 442?

They are both keen South Melb fans. These were their 442 posting names. I'm not going to use their last names - publicly.

Anyway, Benjamin was a mate of Con Boutsianis. I never saw him play, but have heard incredible stories about his legendary free kick taking for South Melb, from Benjamin, as well as the two panellists waxing lyrical about his dead ball ability on this Podcast.
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I suspect I do, but not well enough to chat to...

As for Boutsi.... all I can say is the man had a left leg of a surgeon... could perform brain surgery with that thing.... enjoy:

 
Decentric said:
Mono, can you get a word in when you are with Mike and Pete, and they are in full flight?

I'm pretty bad for talking a lot, but these two are another level!

LOL!

Since they are so passionate about football, it is good.
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ummm ... NO is the answer although I do try.....
 
Decentric said:
I didn't know about this action from TL?

I wouldn't be surprised!
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I'm trying to hunt down who I'm thinking of that was at ASA and coming across some articles from the time. I've read a few times of the "old soccer, new football" line, and it seems to be about killing off Soccer Australia more than anything "ethnic clubs" related. Maybe that changed a bit later on or was a media perception?

On 1 January 2005, ASA renamed itself to Football Federation Australia (FFA), aligning with the general international usage of the word "football", in preference to "soccer", and to also distance itself from the failings of the old Soccer Australia. It coined the phrase "old soccer, new football" to emphasise this.
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Lowy also said the change of name was more than just symbolic.

"The New Football in a corporate sense will stand for good, modern and transparent corporate governance and management, honest and open communication, inclusiveness and a "unity of purpose" in the best interests of the game," he said in an open letter to Australian soccer stakeholders today.
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Beretta said:
let's not forget when Juventus signed CR7 for what, 70mill?

Juve made that money back in the first few days just from Jersey Sales.
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yeah thats pretty much all its about these days.... Melbourne is a sea of Pink Inter Miami jerseys or yellow al-Ahmed or whatever they are called Ronaldo jerseys.
 
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